TROLLWATCH : AOC = Awesome, Oppressed Congresswoman

PD IS BACK!!!! The Angry Trump-Loving Irishman who follows me on Facebook has jumped in with his combative commentary once more.

All I did was say how much I enjoyed the Knocking Down The House documentary on Netflix and while it took him a few days to respond, once he did he was back with a series of tropes straight out of the Trump playbook. Just to be clear, my original post was published before the POTUS’s racist tirade against ‘The Squad’, while PD’s response came after.

My policy with him is simple…when he made his original attack on a different post a while ago, he questioned the validity of my sources for my opinions, despite the lack of evidence thereof, and what’s more, when I asked him to reveal his own, he declined to answer several times.

This is now the second time he commented on a post that has a theme that involved watching a broadcast – before it was a Democratic debate, this time the doc on Netflix. He has admitted to watching neither.

Here’s how the exchange went, if you could call it that…

ORIGINAL POST [attached to link to Netflix documentary] : How did I not know about this before now? Awesome. #AOC

PD : Omg Jeff.. come out of clown world… please man.. I’m worried about ye.. the world is going to end in twelve years?? Green new deal?? Will cost over 90 trillion dollars.. AOC? Concentration camps?? Won’t condemn ANTIFA terrorist attacks on an ICE facility? You must be kiddin… a stooge for the justice democrats? Cenk the young Turk? Is there any logic left out there? Wake up Jeff… pllleeeaasse.. 🙈

ME : OK

PD : No argument… as usual…. poor Jeff.. I’ve tried to save you from your cognitive dissonance… there must be some one in your group with a little common sense? Come down to Google hq and stand up for freedom of speech guys.. it’s really important 👍🇨🇮🇺🇸🇺🇸💪

ME : Happy to discuss the topic of the thread… What did you think of the Netflix show?

PD : Jeff.. please stop tryin to control conversation.. AOC as you proclaim…. is awesome? Haven’t watched it yet.. but would love to.. I won’t let you away with just stickin to discussing your threads alone.. I’m calling you out on your philosophy…Why don’t you tell me and your friends what is so awesome about AOC?

ME : But it is my conversation. My page my topic my thread. Surely even you can’t argue that? This is about a Netflix show I watched. You admit you didn’t, yet you still chose to comment. So maybe I’m calling you out? Especially when your first angry comment on a previous post way back when questioned the validity of MY sources? But you know that and clearly don’t care. So if you want to continue this chat, watch the show. Of course you won’t because you’re afraid you might learn something that contradicts your Trump talking points.

Thursday, July 18, 2019 on JL Pagano Facebook page

AT TIME OF POSTING THERE HAVE BEEN OVER 15 HOURS WITHOUT A REPLY

…so I posted this extra comment for ‘divilment’…

ME : Interesting…you say you want an argument yet when I offer one, not a word. What’s up with that, Phil? Even if you were busy for the last 15 hours it takes less than a minute to post “I’ll respond tomorrow”. You seem to be good at starting ‘debates’ but when it comes to finishing them or even staying on topic, not so much – which of course makes it clear why Trump is your guy! 😉

Friday, July 19, 2019

UPDATE : Eventually he did respond…

PD : Hi Jeff… again… what is so awesome about AOC? Or any Democrats for that matter… I have Netflix here but I haven’t got a chance to see it yet.. been busy workin…. only to humour you… but see a lot of left wing liberal propaganda on it… something tells me this could be more brainwashing and feelings rather than facts and evidence…. you’re a funny guy Jeff… it’s been a struggle to get you past Ok… so we can debate… You haven’t addressed any of my criticisms of your idea’s…. yes.. trump is my man alright 🇺🇸🇺🇸💪💪 and AOC the bar tender/Actress who auditioned for the Justice Democrats to run for congress.. who keeps makin a fool of herself on a daily basis is your gal 😉🙈 great choice Jeff 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

ME : Hi Phil thanks for eventually getting back. Just to be clear, any discussion of politics between us will not be what I call a debate. For me that means a discussion with mutual respect that leads to a conclusion. For you that clearly means name calling, straw men and false premises that leads to a row. But since you have put so much time and effort into getting my attention, I have decided to humour you by doing things your way.

For the umpteenth time in this thread, I’m telling you my original post, and thus the word ‘awesome’, was about the documentary, not AOC herself. I know I use the hashtag but that is because of the four candidates featured (don’t worry I’ll relieve you of the torture of watching it) she was the only one who won her primary against an establishment Democrat.

When it comes to her policies and those of progressives, I think your hero has made a big mistake by elevating them to world recognition with his racist provocation (sorry if the r word offends you but housing in NY, birtherism, Central Park 5, Charlottesville, Mexican judge, sh*t-hole countries and now this…..he’s a racist. End of.).

The reason it’s a mistake is that they actually agree with him on a lot of his 2016 policy promises; healthcare for all with pre existing conditions and lower prescription drugs, draining the swamp with no more corporate-owned politicians, and not necessarily doing things the Washington way, to name but three. The only difference is that when THEY say it, they actually WANT to do all of that for their voters as opposed to using them like he does. He thinks he’s being clever by stirring hatred among his base and sees 95% approval among Republicans as validation, but that doesn’t account for those fleeing the party and for every one 2016 vote he retains in 2020, his divisiveness is more than likely to create another 3 votes against him.

And that’s just on policy…when it comes to personality, he has more scandal on his plate than all four of the ‘Squad’ will see in their collective lifetimes. He’s a disgrace to the White House and as far as I’m concerned those who support him can only either be profiting from his presidency personally or are just brainwashed into hating so-called ‘liberals’.

Hopefully that has given you enough to find the ‘right’ comebacks on Fox News and all those YouTube channels from which you keep sharing clips with me on Messenger 😉

Friday, July 19, 2019

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“Housing crisis? What housing crisis?” asks Irish mainstream

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“We continue to expand our macroprudential framework to ensure we have the right tools to manage potential risks to financial stability and the addition of the Systemic Risk Buffer will be an important tool for us in building a resilient banking system with sufficient capital buffers to absorb these structural shocks.”

[translation : “We want you to forget this mess is partly our fault by pointing to Brexit and using intentionally complicated economic jargon”]

Article in Journal.ie by Cormac Fitzgerald : “Hard Brexit could cause house prices to fall, Central Bank warns

Varadkar’s “altargate row” highlights all that is wrong with Irish politics & mainstream media

A classic example of an article prolonging the distraction from the actual policy issue at hand

JL Pagano What a shock – a debate over an actual issue that affects the country like a National Broadband Plan gets tossed aside in favour of a spat over a metaphor, all the while reinforcing the illusion that FG and FF are somehow alternatives for the electorate when in fact they are essentially the same party and are currently in a virtual coalition government.

my comment on the above Facebook post

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TROLLWATCH : All Aboard The Mysogyny Express!!! 🙄

It’s trolls, WUMs and bots that give social media a bad name, so here at FPP we occasionally have a TROLLWATCH post to call them out.

If anything RTÉ did too much work in producing this particular clickbait.

All they needed to incur the wrath of the Angry Irish Straight Men Brigade was the (clearly deliberately unflattering) photo and a headline that read “Lesbian Footballer Complained about Something”.

On a personal level it was good to be back defending Rapinoe once more after my earlier post suggesting her White House comments were ill-advised.

Paul Vanderheijden Having achieved a modicum of notoriety, whether deserved or not I leave for others to judge, for her comments regarding the White House she now must consider she has some special status to level criticism.

Personally, I consider her as a very good player, with a foul disposition and a big “chip on her shoulder”.

Máirtín Ó’Riain God I am looking forward to this tournament ending. Sick of hearing about this team.

William Parker Her anger and hate over shadow her skill in the field 10 years from now all we will remember is that angry world cup player “what was her name”?

Aidan Mc Carron Will not be watching it no matter what day or time it’s on. Better drama on tv

Podge Foley I disagree with him

Brendan Ó Conchobhair wah wah wah….i think that was the quote

according to Facebook these were among the most ‘relevant’ comments

JL Pagano 99% of comments from men, 99% complaining about her complaining. And to everyone who thinks they’re hilarious by saying “him”, well, you’re not.

RTÉ didn’t exactly help using this photo either.

On the actual subject matter, she absolutely has a point. It’s all about the 24 hour news cycle these days and a senior World Cup final should have one all to itself.

My contribution

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